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Comment on Women in contemporary society by Zorro

Zorro — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:58:45 +0000

Overall after finishing the book I would say that women are depicted as mostly submissive in that they cannot take full control of anything, unless they are of the upper class, in which case they can do mostly anything. Eulalia is in control of her family. Juliana is beautiful and although not in full control she still manages to get a degree of control by not instantly submitting to her suitors, no matter how rich they are; she wants to love her future husband. Whit Owl is another prominent respected woman, in control of herself and others. Although she isnt upper class, she is indian, where there are no classes and is respected for her abiulities. As someone said earlier, they are the driving force for men, and they are men’s goals and affect many of their decisions.
-Alex

Comment on American Culture and Identity by Zorro

Zorro — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:51:12 +0000

As Sam said, Allende does not really write this book in the perspective of women in mind. Most of the women are annoying snobs and aren’t very much liked, such as Eulalia, who is a rich brat. The only women i can respect are Isabel, White Owl, Toypurnia, and sort of Amalia. Amalia, in my opinion, wwas the most understanding of them all, but i think that she was too spiritual and believed that she needs to run away when Zorro saved her and she believed it was the spirit of her dead husband. I think this is co mpletely foolish and she shouldnt do that, but it was afterall her culture. Juliana is one of those girls who’s hot and knows it, so she’s a little arrogant and it seems like, at least in the beginning, tries to create a lot of competition for herself. Light – in-the-night did not do anything bad and is another women that I would respect.
All these things cannot exactly say something about our culture and identity as of now as this book took place in the 19th century, but it really does still apply as men are portrayed as the more heroic (Zorro – Diego) and capable people who have the most control, whether women like it or not.
- Alex

Comment on Women in contemporary society by Zorro

Zorro — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:48:17 +0000

yhszorro= Robb T. Arndt=awesomest

Comment on Women in contemporary society by Zorro

Zorro — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:47:06 +0000

yea i forgot again that was by robb

Comment on Women in contemporary society by Zorro

Zorro — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:00:37 +0000

I’m going to go ahead and agree with Tut and Vladimir on this one. In general, women of the upper classes have more freedom. Although, we should also remember that the De Romeu girls have a chaperone following them constantly so they dont have complete freedom. I also feel like Allende portrays women from the upper classes poorly compared to those of lesser descent. Eulalia is shown as a snobbish queen, and Juliana is very, very slow. Comparatively, Diego’s mother, Amalia, Light-In-the-Night: all are strong women who act fairly and intelligently. I feel like Allende is attempting to show that money can corrupt people and that some of the best people are happy without it.

Comment on Women in contemporary society by yhsjoyluckclub

yhsjoyluckclub — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:37:31 +0000

yhsjoyluckclub = Andrew H. Massey = awesome

Comment on Women in contemporary society by yhsjoyluckclub

yhsjoyluckclub — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:36:58 +0000

It seems to me that the women in this novel retain their strength through their refusal of the norm. For example, you all mention White Owl, who has had nothing to do with modern society and has not been “tamed” by the others. She seems to be the most powerful person. Yet, you also mention (Robb) that most of the women who are attached to Spain show weakness or passiveness. The indian lady who refuses to give up her ways also seems to wield immense power. Thusly, from your explanation, in Zorro it seems that women gain their power through refuseing to become tame.

Comment on Women in contemporary society by yhschildofmyheart

yhschildofmyheart — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:41:04 +0000

The women in Zorro seem to be depicted as strong and powerful. This is an interesting contrast to the women in Child of My Heart who are used to show that no one is what they first seem to be. Most of the women in Child of My Heart are neglectful of their children and don’t care much about their families. The role of women in Child of my Heart seems to be opposite of the role of women in Zorro and Bastard out of Carolina. The women are not strong and powerful they are weak and not trustworthy.

Comment on American Culture and Identity by yhscarolinablue

yhscarolinablue — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:32:55 +0000

I think this story sounds very interesting. It feels to me a though thus far it is a big complicated love story. It’s interesting how Isabel seems to portray women she doesn’t like as rather unfavorable. It almost reminds me of middleschool?

Comment on Weird by Zorro

Zorro — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:55:34 +0000

oh yeah….that was sam